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 Posted: Wed Dec 24th, 2008 06:15 am
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As far as I've been able to discover, the Bestiárium, Azaz Tarot was a deck and book set created by Miskolczi Noémi Martina as an entry in the 2005 Hungarian Design Award competition. Ms. Miskolczi was a student at the Hungarian University of Arts and Design and ended up winning the award in the student category.

I don't know if there was originally more than the single copy submitted to the competition, but if the funky Hungarian translater I use can be trusted, copies may soon be availble from Ms. Miskolczi. Unfortunately, while I've found the web page of the Hungarian card printing company that appears to be the source of the cards (and sent them an email inquiry which has not gotten a response), I've been unable to find any contact info for Ms. Miskolczi.

Here's a closeup of the set showing the face of The Hanged Man:



And here's a smaller pic of more cards and the card back:

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I'm intrigued - but if there are availlebel (or will become I'll take it )

Keep us informed if you hear something - hungarian isn't the most easy language to translate as it seems...


I found some extra info (and jury's evaluation with english translation) here: http://www.mszh.hu/English/hivatalrol/testuletek/mft/formatervezesi_dij/dijazottak/2005_lista.html

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These are really cool, I hope to hear more about them!

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I wonder whether contacting the Hungarian University of Arts and Design (as mentioned in the information in Mr la-Luna's link, would be a good starting point?  I haven't the time nor the energy to do it myself, but maybe there is someone here who might pursue this for us?  Any takers?

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I've got an asnwer from Janoska Antal, he says that there going to be an expozition in Budapest in February, when is going to be decided if this deck/book set is going to be printed/published or not (he doesn't know the price yet). He also asked me about how many people would be interested in it -so if somebody is please post it here-it is just an informative inquiry-

thnks

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Assuming it would be less than my mortgage payment put me in as interested...

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I'm surely interested in it!!!!

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I am definitely interested!

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Me too. (And many thanks to rylla for pursuing it.)

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I would definitely be interested!

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Hi all, I'll stick my hand up too! These look fascinating.
I have two other decks from Hungary; Eredeti Magyar Kartya a 32 card non Tarot pack, and the beautiful Ludvig Tarot...
...but this Bestiarium Azaz tarot appears to be in another league altogether.
Thank you for bringing it to our attention.

Sumada

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Of course very interested, too.

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Hello All!

Actually I know the creator very well :)
She is planning to issue a limited series of the deck and book set in the near future.
I will also invite her to this forum.

Best regards,
Miroszlav

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neducsinm wrote:
Actually I know the creator very well :)
She is planning to issue a limited series of the deck and book set in the near future.
I will also invite her to this forum.

That's great news! Thanks!

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Dear Collectors!

I am happy to hear about your interest in my Tarot deck and book set.

I am planning to issue a series of 10 sets, however I am a bit concerned about the preparation method.

In the original version the cards were printed using two different techiques: polymer block of engraving (etching based on photo method) and a manual relief printing process. The book was leather covered.

According to my preliminary calculations the same quality would cost roughly 200-250 USD per set.

Looking forward to your feedback,

 

Best regards,

 

Martina Miskolczi

 

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Martina, welcome to the forum! What a delight to see you here.

To me, the great appeal of your set is the consistent design language and execution of all the elements. So, personally, I would prefer a set that was the same quality as the original. (I.e., sign me up!)

(And again, what a testament to the value of Adam's forum. Two months ago I found mention of Martina's tarot online, but could find no other info. Today the artist and designer is here discussing her planned limited edition. How cool is that?)

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Hello!  I have sent you a PM!

Note: Just to confirm, price range is OK with me.

Marcia

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Hello Martina, and welcome to the forum.

Your work is marvelous!
And I would not hesitate to pay what you have suggested.

Please reserve one for me?

Best regards,
OnePotato

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and from me also a big hello and welcome Martina!!!

It's always great having the artist here to inform us about their deck creation, especially one I love as much as yours. :ro

As for the deck - here is another interested person so keep one I'll buy one as soon as it's ready!!!

Stefan

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martinamiskolczi wrote: According to my preliminary calculations the same quality would cost roughly 200-250 USD per set.


 

Wow, that's a bit of money, but for the quality you mention...sign me up too.  You'lll probably have all ten copies sold long before production time.  How cool is that!

Let us know details as they become available, and when the 10 copies are sold out. It looks like I'm either the 4th or 5th person to confirm after knowing the price. 

It's really a neat looking decks and I look forward to adding it to my collection.

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Unfortunately this is out of my price range at this time. :cs
I shall watch and covet.

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Thank you very much for the positive feedback!

I confirm that I reserved a set each for OnePotato, papoon, Marcia959, AdamMcLean, Mr. la-luna, skad1 J

 

Here is some description:

A deck of Tarot Cards and its Book of Explanations:

The Tarot symbols appear on the cards as Creatures evoked by dream controlling and conscious dreaming.

The hand-made leather-bound book is modelled on the Bestiaries of the Middle Ages (Bestiary is a book written in the Middle Ages containing descriptions of real and imaginary animals and creatures which was intended to teach morals and to entertain) It is a collection of imaginary creatures portraying the different stages of human life.

Archaic and modern methods are combined in the  technical realisation of the Book.

The cards were prepared using two different techiques: polymer block of engraving (etching based on photo method) and manual relief printing process.

The size of the cards is 8x12,5 cm, 1mm thick,  22+1 cards.

The book is A/5 sized , 48 sheets, 1 side printed.

Also 1 more picture:

 

Getting back to you soon with more details!

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and 1 more :)

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Me, too.  A beautiful project.  I want one.  I am sending you a private message.

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nicole wrote: Unfortunately this is out of my price range at this time. :cs
I shall watch and covet.



I too can only watch and covet :sd, (having recently blown my entire tarot budget for the year on a single deck!)

But I really do admire this Bestiarium deck, and particularly for the attention to detail and the obvious quality of production of these cards. WOW, if only all decks were this lovingly created. And the artwork is so beautiful, intriguing, evocative and consumate. Congratulations Martina.

Maybe there will be a second edition, sometime when I can afford it. In the mean time it looks as though this first edition will be snapped up by the end of the week!

Regards,
Sumada

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Wow. Just--- WOW

Totally beyond my pensioner's budget, but that doesn't prevent me from recognizing an awesome thing when I see it, and I am still free to covet, if not privileged enough to purchase.

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Hi Martina. I hope you're still planning on this project (and one for me :D

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I haven't had a chance to comment on this before (was busy), but:

Those are just really wonderful (even if they're out of my price range)! The designs are just gorgeous, like medieval meets lovecaft, and the fact that they're hand made makes them even more special (adds to the medieval feel?).

How did you make the sides look worn and yellow? That looks really effective and it works very well with the look of the deck.

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Dear Debra! I put you on the list of course :)

For sure I am working on this project, the last week I was busy with organizing an exhibition at "studio of young desginers assotiation" (http://www.fise.hu/).

Just to say a few words about the status, I will start the work in the binder workshop next week, the books will be finished whithin 3 weeks approximately.

In paralell I am also working on the cards, but they take a little more time than the books.

If anyone among the readers of this forum happens to be in Budapest in the upcoming days, please visit my exhibition and check out the set personally :)

All the best,

Martina

 

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Dear nicole, Sumada, Toadeater!

I feel sad when reading that people who appreciate my work cannot afford it. Unfortunately the used materials and procedures does not allow me to make it easier to afford.

On the other hand I am happy that 10 sets of my beloved decks and books will be held around the world.

Please tell me which is your favourite card, and I will send you the picture of that card as a consolation J

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Hello!

You were interested how I made the cards looking antique.

First I stongly pressed the cards together, with this I could chisel them as a piece of wood, this is how I rounded the corners.

Then I used a special paste which gives the antique look manually on each card.

I hope it helped,

 

Martina

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Martina,

What a lovely offer! I am very fond of Temperance and love your work...

I will send you a pm and I will insist on paying postage!!!

Nicole

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It's a good tarot deck.:ok

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Hi Martina,

The work and detail you've put into these cards are amazing - I'd love a set too if there's one available.

Pen 

 

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Dear Martina,

Wow! I feel so honoured, you are so very generous. Thank you, thank you.

I have sent you a PM.

Regards Sumada

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Oh, hope I'm not too late.  If there are enough to go around, please put me on  your list for your deck!

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Hi, any news on the progress of this deck?  (from a very eager collector, of course!!)

 

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I PMed her on the 24th Feb but haven't had a reply.

Pen

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beautiful

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Hello Dear Collectors!

I came acrosss some difficulties with the printing of the cards, but now they are sorted out, and, fingers crossed :), everything is on the way, so I can focus again on the books too.
Thanks a lot for your patience!

Martina

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Hello Martina,

Glad things are progressing well again and  thanks for letting me know I'm on the list. All I have to do now is to save up...:)

Pen  

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martinamiskolczi wrote: Hello Dear Collectors!

I came acrosss some difficulties with the printing of the cards, but now they are sorted out, and, fingers crossed :), everything is on the way, so I can focus again on the books too.
Thanks a lot for your patience!

Martina

Wonderful news!  Thanks so much for your post!

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Hello All!

I am happy to share with you some pictures of the books!
Yes, they are ready!

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Hi Martina,

Thanks for the update - they look beautiful.

Pen 

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Thank you dear

they look great :ok

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They look wonderful! I'm so excited! :D

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