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 Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 03:03 pm
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skad1
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If anyone in interested in the Tarot de Besançon de 1890 a copy is on Ebay, Numéro de l'objet : 130196815604 (Ebay,fr)

Out of my price range, but a neat deck.

 

 

 

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 Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 07:14 pm
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Ya, I've been watching this one too.

The coloring is so strange, that it sort of transforms it into a "modern" deck, rather than the traditional woodblock that it actually springs from. A sort of transitional link between the old tradition, and what is soon to be...

It would be very interesting to see it next to an earlier printing of the blocks, with its original intended color scheme.

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 Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 07:33 pm
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It looks to me like the line work was printed, then the colors were added by water color or other paint, with a brush that was just a bit too large!

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 Posted: Sat Feb 16th, 2008 12:36 am
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The original line art on the woodblock was created circa 1748, for the original production. It would have been stencil colored with paint, as that was the standard means of production of the time.

About 150 years later, LeQuart got ahold of the old blocks, and printed up a new edition for his 1890's audience. The linework is the same as the 1748 original, and the coloring appears to have been applied by the traditional stencil method. But the color scheme is much more, er, "imaginative" than the traditional, in both palette and choices for the locations of the various colors.

The final effect is, I believe,  quite different from the old traditional deck that it was in it's earlier lifetime.


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 Posted: Sat Feb 16th, 2008 03:39 am
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I guess everyone has their own criteria for collecting. (Don't we have a thread on this somewhere?)  But I have 10 old cards and I wouldn't trade them. They carry their age with them.

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 Posted: Wed Feb 20th, 2008 01:24 am
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Someone really wanted them, the final auction was $1858.55 US.  I wonder if they had to pay shipping?

 

:shock:  :shock:

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 Posted: Sat Mar 1st, 2008 10:59 am
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Hello all,

Yes it was sold about 1230 € /1800 $ about.

And you know what ?

This deck is very very very rare and his historically speaking priceless !!!

It is a living proof of Tarot creation chain link.

It is a pity that such clue was lost in private zone.:X

But I did not said my last word and hope to get it in one way or another.:dude:

Remenber what I say: You saw History Gap. To be continued.;)

Regards,

Yves Nuts :cool:

PS: By the way I informs you that it is NOT a Besancon Model. It is a Marseille Type Model.:ro

 

 

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 Posted: Mon Mar 3rd, 2008 08:07 am
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Hello,

I own this Lequart deck woodblock and stencil, It is a Besançon deck (with Junon and Jupiter...
I own also the later grimaud lithografic deck (others colors...), also a besançon...

before the well known Grimaud (1930, a Marseilles of course)...


Yves, are you really sure this Lequart on Ebay is not a Besançon?...

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 Posted: Mon Mar 3rd, 2008 09:49 am
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Hello Palestrina,

 

Yes I am sure because:

I saw Pape and Papesse of this deck in place of Junon and Jupiter.

This is why this deck is really rare.

I know that uselly it is composed of Junon and Jupiter like your deck.

Very surprising... but truth as far as I can see.

I did not got this bid so I can't be 100 % sure but I am tracking it as you know.

Best regards,

Yves Le Marseillais :cool:

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