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The people have spoken!!!!  

 MAJORS ONLY DECK FOR 2012

I have a new sigup list below, anyone who had a major before, still has that major.  All minors are gone.  New deadline, see below.

I'll leave it as one major per person until June 15, then it'll be open for multiple cards

2012 Collaborative deck.  No theme.
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Da Rools:

Card size and ratio.  (Same as last year.)
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The deadline is August 31th. We mean it. Any cards not with us – in their high resolution format - by then will be reassigned to fast workers – we know who they are.

WE MUST have a card of the right dimensions – see below - in jpg or tiff format, at a resolution of AT LEAST 300 dpi by that date. If you can’t do that yourself – find someone who can help you, and do it NOW. It really isn’t that hard.  

There will be a LWB!  May as well send your bios in now, and do prepare to write card descriptions too.  No title or card number, that will be in the border that someone else does. see last years as an example


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Card size and ratio.  (Same as last year.)

This diagram is the actual card size and dimensions.  The dashed area is the border which will be done by someone else, your design area is 2 1/2 by 3 3/4 inches.  To make the final design look as good as possible, it is always recommended to work at a larger scale.  Then when the final design is scaled down at the end, it minimizes any little imperfections.  It just looks better.  The second diagram is the the card sized up twice size, just to give you good working dimensions.  You can work any scale you want, as long as the final ratio is 1:1.5.  In other words, 1 inch in the horizontal equals 1 1/2 inch in the vertical.

All dimensions are in inches

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Can I have the Star please?

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I'd like to do the Hierophant and the 3 of Cups and the 3 of Swords

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I'd like to request Temperance, and for pips I'd like 10 of Cups and 10 of Swords.

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High Priestess and 8 of Swords for me please.

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Empress, Page of Pentacles, King of Wands?

Marcia :gi

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What do you think of this for border design?  It's kinda rocky, but cool

Your design will replace the center section.  remember this is a ver low res versiion of the final border

(the picture to the right is a blow up of the upper right corner)

Actually, I agree, too busy, too dominate in color.  check back later for something different.

Probably quite similar ti last years.

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The Death, please

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skad1 wrote: What do you think of this for border design?  It's kinda rocky, but cool

Your design will replace the center section.  remember this is a ver low res versiion of the final border

(the picture to the right is a blow up of the upper right corner)



I actually think that border is too busy for me. I more like simple borders that don't distract too much from the images. Sorry :sd.

 

Ok, about the deck, I would like to do the Tower this time and the 6 of pentacles. There may be one more card to follow.. but I need to think about it.

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May I have the Lovers please?
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Devil, 6 Swords and Queen Pentacles, please.

And I think that border's a bit limiting on design, in a way...

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I'd like to do Hermit, 4 of Swords, 9 of Pentacles, please.

ETA: I think that border is a bit too strong in itself, might clash with many designs.

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May I please have The Sun or The Moon?

May I please Queen of Cups and Queen of Wands?

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Moon it is

 

We're almost half done!!!!   45%

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Can I also have the 4 of wands? (to complete my 2 minors :cool:). And wow, I actually have no swords this year! :hp Then again, I guess the Tower makes up for that... lol! :cl :f

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Second attempt at a border.  I put some of 2011 cards in it so you could see what they'd look like.  I lightened the border background alittle, so the the 3 cards are a little darker.

What ' cha think?

Where is everyone?  There haven't been any new takers on the cards.  Have I pissed everyone off? :sd

 

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better :cool:

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I pop in sometimes, but notifications are unreliable and I have something I must finish before I commit myself this year.

Not keen on the faux chrome banners - less is more, methinks.

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If those, - grayscale, rather than the purple so as not to risk any clash with a card...

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We're going the wrong way, someone dropped out!!!!

So if you were interested in the fool or 10 wands,...

Still havent heard back from printer on fool deck.  i'll try to remeber to call her today.

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I would like to do the chariot.

Greetings
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New border, see post above.

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Looking at the poll - are things as bad as they look ?

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gregory wrote: Looking at the poll - are things as bad as they look ?
Looks like it, unless we get more people to vote!

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Majors only deck it is, see first post for list and new deadline.

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May I have The Fool please?

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Seeing the response for the 2012 deck, I think it is a wise decision to go for a majors only. I am glad we are still going to have a 2012 deck.

The later deadline is also helping for sure... at least, for me it is. I am still in my Tower year...:f and I think right now there is also a bit of Wheel of Fortune (bottom of the wheel) happening:ee.

Anyway, I think I will be able to finish my card before 31st of august... unless some other cards are also gonna roar their ugly little heads. :cc

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I've done mine :ro

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gregory wrote: I've done mine :ro

Yeah???

Prove it!

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I actually posted it days ago and then took it down. Here you go again:

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I'll take the Magician, if its still available please...

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Ya got it!

8 cards left.

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skad1 has put me on the list for the emperor, Thanks very much!

Here comes the card. It was meant to go into a little deck I made recently but in the end didn't fit in (more details here: http://www.tarotcollectors.com/view_topic.php?id=2280&forum_id=6 )


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Sherry - is it time to start a here's my card thread ??? Even if having there here does encourage, maybe ?

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gregory wrote: Sherry - is it time to start a here's my card thread ??? Even if having there here does encourage, maybe ?

I dunno, since we're only doing a 22 card deck, should we just leave it here?

a quick 'n dirty look at what the cards may look like.  trzes, you may need to refer to card sizes in the second post, your card doesn't quite fit.

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Sorry, I didn't realize the upload should also have the correct measures. This one should be ok. I might photoshop the image a bit though before I send the final version.

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come one come all.  open for as many cards as you want...well, there's only 6 cards left so there is a limitation.

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Let me see what I could come up with for a second card. Of course, I have to finish my first one! :cl

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If you are desperate I'll take strength, but I'd much rather we had only one card to an artist, like.....

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gregory wrote: If you are desperate I'll take strength, but I'd much rather we had only one card to an artist, like.....
Me too.  But I need 6 more peoples.  Go forth and incourage!

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My first card is 95% ready only a bit more tweaking before i'm entirely satisfied with it...

If you need it I could make a sun card...

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Mr. la-luna wrote: My first card is 95% ready only a bit more tweaking before i'm entirely satisfied with it...

If you need it I could make a sun card...


Gotcha!  got both you and Gregory down for another card.  4 more to go.

:tt

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Oh crap. OK then; on it...

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PS I think it is time to wind this down as an annual thing, if we can't even muster 22 people to join in

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Well, I can do Judgement.

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gregory wrote: PS I think it is time to wind this down as an annual thing, if we can't even muster 22 people to join in

I am really wondering why we can't even find 22 people this year. The other years, people basically jumped in so fast, the list filled up in no time. And the first cards were also already on the forum very quick. Even for the challenge deck. But this year it just seems different. I wonder why?:qq

For myself, I know this year my energy and attention has really been absorbed by all kinds of real life things. But I still do want to make at least one card. I got this great idea, but I don't know how to realize it yet. Yesterday evening though, I kinda made a backup card for the Tower already, low res. It is a more traditional one. If I am gonna use that, I will have to make it in high res of course. But I am still hoping I can manage to do my other idea before the end of august. I don't have access to all my own photographs right now to work on it seriously...:sd

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I think there was a lot of ill feeling last year. I got PMs. Which is why I will not organise anything to do with it again. But it is a shame we cannot even manage 22 people. I will DO a Strength - but not post in the hope that someone else does.

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<deleted> Double post - connection must be playing up.

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gregory wrote: I think there was a lot of ill feeling last year. I got PMs. Which is why I will not organise anything to do with it again. But it is a shame we cannot even manage 22 people. I will DO a Strength - but not post in the hope that someone else does.
Why was there ill-feeling? I don't remember much about last year's deck, except that instructions not to clutter up the thread had an awfully dampening effect on me to the extent that I got out of the habit of posting much here at all.

I think also that doing two decks last year took the edge off things.

Just my thoughts...  :kt

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So sorry to hear that there was negativity concerning the last deck.  I didn't know or understand what others were going through to make it happen even though I appreciated the work they did.  What can we do to make it better?  This is a great forum with great people so maybe we need to step back and see what all of us can do to change this around!

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goldenweb wrote: Why was there ill-feeling? I don't remember much about last year's deck, except that instructions not to clutter up the thread had an awfully dampening effect on me to the extent that I got out of the habit of posting much here at all.

I think also that doing two decks last year took the edge off things.

Just my thoughts...  :kt


I agree about the 2 deck thing.  It was pushing it too far.  But I really wanted to see if we could do it, and I knew it'd never fly for the regular deck.

So, is it me?  should I let others take care of this, would that help?:kt

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No it's not you. The only person ever to cause GENUINE offence was me, don't forget.

And the second deck we just did worked out just fine - it was weird and special and I loved it ! I think people are jaded over all forums. Every last one I am on - which includes two totally not tarot forums - is very muted right now....

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No skad, it's definitely not you - without you there probably wouldn't be any decks at all. And gregory's right about forums methinks.

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:cool::cool: sorry, double clicked 'send'.

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I offered to do Judgement a while back, but...

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Go for it. I will post a Strength when I get back to the UK.... I still think it's a shame we can't muster 22 people but that must be life...

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I could provide a wheel of fortune if nobody else wants to and if y'all don't expect too much artistic skill :D

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I want you. Please do, she said, hoping others will agree in public.

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trzes wrote: I could provide a wheel of fortune if nobody else wants to and if y'all don't expect too much artistic skill :D
Please do, trzes... 

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goldenweb wrote: I offered to do Judgement a while back, but...

OOOOOOOps!!!!

I updated my spreadsheet, but forgot to post it. :cs

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I made two conceptual designs for the chariot, and I am not sure which one will fit better to the deck




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Nice cards ! I LIKE the second better - but I think the first fits a collaborative deck better. If that makes sense....

What does the Hebrew mean ? (If this is something very obvious that I should have known - sorry; I am in a hurry on my way to a plane !)

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In both cards is the hebrew letter zayin, the seventh letter associated with the chariot.

 In the first card are additional urim and thumim diviniation-stones.

Sorry for refering to wikipedia but my English isn't good enough to explain in own words:

urim and thumim at wikipedia


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Good enough - thanks.

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If nobody else want it, I can do a "Justice".

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Eno wrote: If nobody else want it, I can do a "Justice".


Sounds good to me.

That leaves the title card, unless someone would do the Happy Designer and I'll do the title card.

I think I like the first strength best.  I am not sure I understand the second one.  It looks like a mudslide over a river and water farm, how close am I?

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skad1 wrote

I think I like the first strength best.  I am not sure I understand the second one.  It looks like a mudslide over a river and water farm, how close am I?

It’s not strength but chariot.
 
I admit, the second one is a bit abstract.
 
In the lower left corner is the classical image according to Eliphas Levi. Now place yourself inside the chariot and look outside, while the two “horses” go in different directions and twist and dilate space and time.

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Quite. Strength is the second card I am reluctantly taking on if no-one else does soon hint hint...

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Eno wrote:
It’s not strength but chariot.
 
I admit, the second one is a bit abstract.
 
In the lower left corner is the classical image according to Eliphas Levi. Now place yourself inside the chariot and look outside, while the two “horses” go in different directions and twist and dilate space and time.


Oh I recognise the image from Levi - and I like the abstractness; it is just that that very aspect of it - the abstractness - sets it apart from the other cards we've seen so far, and that might mean the deck hung together less well ?

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Ok, I just finished my Hierophant...I think
feedback is welcome

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I absolutely bonded with the first card because a gazillion years ago I spent two summers on a kibbutz in Israel when I was a teenager and everyday I watched the combines in the fields.  What a clever idea for the chariot! 

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I like Mr. la-luna s Hierophant. The silver lines look like the outline of a face interacting with the wooden fetish-figure in the background.

I would like to know from which culture the fetish is...

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Here's my Fool card.


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And here's Judgement.


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Do we need a thread for the LWB? I'll do my bit later on.

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Here is my first attempt to make af Wheel of Fortune. Compared to the others it's maybe a little to dark?

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And here are my two versions (one abstract and one not so abstract) for justice




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Another trial for the Wheel:

Could also be anything in between (color from the one, shapes from the other, but different sizes, etc)

Opinions?


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I would prefer the colors from your second wheel of fortunes.  But I also like the little white figures (dragon etc) around the wheel in the first version. Maybe a combination of the two versions ..?

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Eno wrote: I would prefer the colors from your second wheel of fortunes.  But I also like the little white figures (dragon etc) around the wheel in the first version. Maybe a combination of the two versions ..?


Thanks for the comment! I'll give it a try to include the figures from the first into the second one, but will definitely leave out the text (wouldn't make sense anyway without moon and sky colors).

As for your alternative takes on the chariot I like the first one a tad better. Your second justice is really creepy but I like it a lot. The first justice is a bit too abstract for me to understand.

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Wow guys, these are some really great cards! 

If it helps decide which version of a card to do, pop a temp version on the border (see page 1 of thread)  I poped really, really low res images on the border, but you can see how they'd look as a finished card better.

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Skad - maybe I'll have to remove the Celtic border from Judgement - I'd forgotten that the borders of the deck were not just plain (which would have been OK), but as it is now the slightly uneven white edges will show. I'll send you an amended version...

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goldenweb wrote: Skad - maybe I'll have to remove the Celtic border from Judgement - I'd forgotten that the borders of the deck were not just plain (which would have been OK), but as it is now the slightly uneven white edges will show. I'll send you an amended version...

okey

I put the low res on the border and it does look kinda funky.  I like the celtic boder but it is probably too much with the other border. 

BUT it is an idea for the 2013 border :hp


I just plop the tests of the cards on the border, so it is no where near as nice as what the final will be.  The resolutiion is really low, and I haven't taken the time to ezctly fit the card of the border.

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Hi skad - thanks for this - it never occurred to me to actually try it.

The card is much better than I thought it would be with the border, in spite of the fact that the uneven white edges are visible, and I do like the Celtic reference - he is a Druid, after all, even if he hasn't a long white beard. Perhaps I'll have a play around and see if I can make them more even.

Not sure about 2013 - it's not that I mind, but it would make the deck Celtic, and others might.

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I actually prefer the Judgement with the celtic border. It somehow resonated more with me. Even with the extra border. I feel like the one without the celtic border is missing something. Anyway, just my 2 cents.

Btw, I have been working on my card. I have two test versions, low resolution that are very different from eachother. Not sure yet which one to go with.

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Skad1, I see that Marcia signed up to do the Empress. Which is just fine and I am sure she will get it done.
But just in case something goes wrong, I wanted to let you know I have an extra (very different) Empress left over from last year that could be used.

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truelighth wrote: I actually prefer the Judgement with the celtic border. It somehow resonated more with me. Even with the extra border. I feel like the one without the celtic border is missing something. Anyway, just my 2 cents.
I fell exactely the same way. The extra border is no problem for me.



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Still fiddling with my wheel of fortune. Here are two attempts to find a compromise between the two versions:

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Thanks for the input, all - I'm working on evening up the border as I feel something is missing without it too.

Trzes - I like the purple background - it has the effect of knocking it back further so that the figures show up more and gives an otherworldly feel. Suppose you tried it with the red wheel - maybe the gold it a little too contrasty.

And/or perhaps try making the wheel completely opaque - there's a lot of translucency going on at the moment with the figures not being solid as well.

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trzes wrote: truelighth wrote: I actually prefer the Judgement with the celtic border. It somehow resonated more with me. Even with the extra border. I feel like the one without the celtic border is missing something. Anyway, just my 2 cents.
I fell exactely the same way. The extra border is no problem for me.


Another one preferring the Celtic border.

Gotta finish Strength.

As to 2013 - ummmmmm... not sure, given this one !

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I evened up the border as much as possible and sent the new file off to Skad. I'm glad all who've answered so far prefer the border - I think he looks a bit exposed without it.

Not really sure about 2013 either - maybe we should have a rest for a year...

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goldenweb wrote: Trzes - I like the purple background - it has the effect of knocking it back further so that the figures show up more and gives an otherworldly feel. Suppose you tried it with the red wheel - maybe the gold it a little too contrasty.

And/or perhaps try making the wheel completely opaque - there's a lot of translucency going on at the moment with the figures not being solid as well.

Thanks for pointing out the contrasts. Now that you mention it, I also think the yellow is a bit too much. If the purple version should make it, then I will mute the saturation down a bit. I tried the red wheel with purple background which didn't look too good for me.

I tried an opaque wheel as well, also with opaque figures which all works fine, but in a rather different way. I wouldn't want to make the wheel opaque in the end, since I would loose the effect of the wheel also being genuine part of the background.

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I did say you would have to be desperate for another from me...

(ETA I hate all of them I posted so far and am starting over kinda.)

ETA some more. OK - is this any good (needs smoothing in places, I realise...)

I wish someone else would do it....

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I am lost here - carry on gregs

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Gregory, there's a drip or stain that makes it look like she's peeing on her leg.

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This is true ! (also on her chest) I will clean it off when I smooth the grass etc. But is she OK otherwise ? Cos I have little time just now.

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Well personally I like both the girl and the lion but I'm not so enamored of them floating against a backdrop of someone's front yard.

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That's a huge park in Bruges actually :cl

I had used it in the first place as it was behind the first (and indeed second !) girl I posted earlier - who was photographed there - but OK - THAT's easily fixed. One moment...

Thank you for answering, by the way.

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OK - I now have a load of alternatives. Are all "gardens" a bad idea ? Just it works so easily for the lion.... Shadows are HARD !

OK - either of these any good ? (I also have a castle wall, but she sort of blends into that...)

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I like them both, gregory, and your shadows are fine. Maybe the one with the railings works better for me though, as all the patterns seem to work well together. The green garden tends to push forwards a little too much.

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Are you sure that's in brugges? I've spent quite a bit of time there and I'm sure I'd remember such a distinctive patch of green
:cl

Which background would convey the most meaning for Strength?

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Absolutely positive. It was grass from the Astridpark in which a rockfest was going on - the Red Rock Rally, on May 1st this year (well, every year, but it was this year that we went). There is more grass than there should be in the picture, after I deleted the little girl who WAS in there, when I took against my first attempt by - painting grass over her.

But I can show you the original photo if you want !

And you can see that there is a LOT of grass there here: (that sounds rather odd !!!)

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koningin_Astridpark_%28Brugge%29

 and here. And the second link pic is close to where the pic was taken - the grass slopes on down and there was a huge stage at the bottom.

Most meaning... I would LIKE a desert but haven't a photo to hand.... Of those two I guess, like Pen, the railings, but the fearless girl is the THING, for me.
I wish you'd take the card, debra. Your cards are MUCH missed in these decks :sd

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Maybe the salt flats in Botswana.... I'd have to find and scan that...

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I am not sure if it fits with Strength, but I like the one with the architecture in the background the most. Somehow the lines and colours just seem to match the girl and lion. Anyway, just my 2 cents.

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Well, the railings are strong and she looks as though she's just about to cuff the creature round the ear. :cl

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That was what I thought (about the railings) - and she isn't peeing any more !!! But I will scan in the salt flats and you can see what you all think. Later - I'm on the way out to buy paving slabs !!! Thanks, debra for taking away the grass - sometimes once one starts amending it never occurs to one that just finding a NEW background might be smart ! The grass worked with the girl that was photographed with it - but not since !

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OK - here is my positively probably last effort. This or the railings ? (Geez the devil was easy. That's what I get for taking on a second card when I had other plans for my life...) ETA: OH - I see part of her leg has kind of merged into the sand. That I can fix.

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Does this help?

I think I like the last one best.  Can the backgound be muted any?  the tree kinda distracts alittle.  It's good there, but too strong.

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How about this for a World?

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Man, I haven't gotten a post update from this thread in forever. Only just today noticed that there were many, many posts since I last looked (at which time the fate of the deck seemed in doubt). Glad to see there's still some weeks 'til the deadline.

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I could mute the tree. But I went right off the garden after Pen commented; she's right IMHO - so I think unless anyone else chips in, the railings have it.

Papoon - what do you think - since you are passing through ?

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Well, just to be a contrarian, I find that the railings are much too busy for a background. Either of the other two work better for me, but I'd also mute the green background.

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Maybe I need to find another pic of the salt pans with less tree....

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OK. The railings and a salt pans. Two more salt pans on the way.

I LIKE the salt pans.

Even if we did get a flat and we also had to push start the jeep... :cl

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And the last of my salt pans.

The garden is hors de the running, OK. Toning it down makes it all pallid and icky.

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I think I now favour the one next to the railings, as the desert is desertier.

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I like the one on the salt pans the best. It somehow fits very well. And well, against the other voices here, I like the original one, with all the trees. Not muted. I think without trees, it looks a bit empty. If I have to choose one with less trees, then I would go for number 3, the one with the tree on the left side.

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The one next to the railings ? That was my final thought. Thanks. I see what skad means about the tree being rather strong for a background. I can always use it for something else !!!

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Mind you I have many more with fewer and smaller trees.... But I also have a life !

(They are, by the way, baobabs. the trees of life ! A deliberate choice, so I'd like to keep the tiny one at least !)

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I have been working on my tower. I have definately decided on the concept I want to follow. But... I now have several versions. So I would like some opinions on which one works best.

Number 1 and 2 are quite similar, but with different broken glass. Number 3 is a slightly different idea I started playing with, where you see earth through a hole in the glass (4 is the same,  but then with a lightning bold added). Now I am not sure which works best...

There is still the logo of depositosphotos in all the pictures (and a arrow sometimes), because I first wanted to be sure which one I am gonna use before I buy the damn picture (of the broken glass, tried it myself, didn't work). So these are experiments on low-res. The final version will not have the logo.

So opinions please... :hp

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gregory wrote: Mind you I have many more with fewer and smaller trees.... But I also have a life !

(They are, by the way, baobabs. the trees of life ! A deliberate choice, so I'd like to keep the tiny one at least !)

Very appropiate indeed. I would say keep the tiny one in any case, but also keep the big one. I like it! :ro But that is my opinion.

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I MIGHT even find one with a smaller big one, like....

I like your tower - which makes skad's world particularly interesting !

Of yours I like no 1 best - the glass is more clearly broken, to my aged eyes !

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gregory wrote: I MIGHT even find one with a smaller big one, like....

I like your tower - which makes skad's world particularly interesting !

Of yours I like no 1 best - the glass is more clearly broken, to my aged eyes !


Thanks. I will see what others think.

And yes, it does make a link with the world from skad. Not that I meant it. When I saw her card a few days ago, I was thinking, I hope it won't be a problem. But it does make the two interesting indeed.

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I like the one with the lightning best.

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I like the lightning, yes - maybe add it to card no 1 - where the colours are also better balanced, IMHO. The dark sky is very good.

And now I have one with a little baobab. How's this ? (some older ones I shall now remove...)

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Eno wrote: I like the one with the lightning best.

Me too...:ok


's looking good, Gregory...:ro

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That one do for you then ?

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Very nicely, thank you. Better see what others think though.

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If no-one else answers soon I shall send it in anyway. I have a lot of other things need doing... I want it to Go Away !

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gregory wrote: If no-one else answers soon I shall send it in anyway. I have a lot of other things need doing... I want it to Go Away !


Remember you have Devil and descriptions yet..

Yeah, yeah, I know....:ww to me.


everyone but eno and Markosias should have gotten an email from me, I don't have their email addesses so I will pm them.

 

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The Fool

The Fool in all his innocence rushes joyfully into a giant wave, alarming and banishing the imp of doubt in the process. His black cat is unsure whether to accompany him or not (actually she's rather freaked out).

Coloured ink and crayon used to define perceived shapes in an abstract sloshing in black ink.


Judgement

A modern Druid stands before Stonehenge. He (or perhaps she), is unbearded, and holds a book. The Ancient Druids were known to have passed their knowledge on orally to preserve the faculty of memory and retain the Mysteries, but times have clearly changed. As well as being the priests of the Celtic tribes, one of the roles of the Ancient Druids was to pass judgement in cases of dispute, and they were recorded as intervening to make peace between warring factions.

The drawing is in black crayon on watercolour
paper.


Bio Penelope Cline


Artist and writer with a passion for tarot art and history, comparative religion, the esoteric and those places where myth and legend cross and mingle. Admirer of snails, creator of The Mystic Rubáiyát, The Pen Tarot and The Wild Green Chagallian Tarot. Currently working on a new 78 card tarot.

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You have my bio and descriptions by email now (I couldn't finish the latter till I was certain whether we were talking Brussels church or desert !). I will send the two cards together in a day or so.

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I like the last version, Gregory. With the little baobab. Works for me :ok

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Good - that's now running at three pro and none against :)

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four pro....

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Should I wash out the background a little (a privately received suggestion...)

Never mind. Skad - you should have both my hi-res cards now. WHEW !

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Ok, I think I need a little advice. I've got a working image that I really like. It's a collage from several (7, I think) Dover "royalty free" images. My main concern is that they may moire when reduced to card size? I know when I posted the image to my FB page it got real ugly, real quick due to moire created by the drop in resolution. Also, how do I post a sample image here - thanks! And one more thing, I think I've got the ratio correct, but would like to double-check, I'm currently working with a 300 dpi 4"x6" PSD image as my "working image," is that a correct submission format?

Here's a link to the image converted to a large JPG:
http://user.xmission.com/~rjlowe/blogPics/Temperance.jpg

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Hi Markosias, nice card.

The jpg image you send Skad should be 2.5" x 3.75" and no lower a resolution than 300 dpi. Making the image smaller doesn't automatically reduce the dpi (dots per inch). So as long as the original Dover images you used were at least 300 dpi and  larger than the finished card you can make the size (or the proportions) correct and it'll be OK.

If the original image was less than 300 dpi you'll need to do some fiddling - either rescan if you scanned the originals from a Dover book yourself, or (if the images came on a CD) adjust the dpi to 300 dpi while the image is large before adjusting the size to make it correct for the card. Needless to say, the image will need to be a few times larger (in size) than the finished card for this to work - it's no good just changing the dpi if the original images are only slightly larger than the finished card before reducing the size, as it won't have much effect (unless the dpi is very large, which is unlikely).

The proportions should be correct too.

Hope this helps,

Pen

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Five pro for the version of gregory's strength, that she has sent already anyway.

I also second gregory's suggestion for the tower: to put the lightning onto card 1.

I like the Temperance a lot too. Hopefully the stitching will still be visible in the printed card.

As for my wheel I hat one vote for the red and gray one, and one for the purple and yellow one. So I added my own vote and sent the purple one to skad1. I followed Goldenweb's suggestion to mute down the saturation of the yellow.

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And I like THAT a VERY lot, too.

Thanks, as I have already sent the card to skad.

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I sent my info and card a week or so ago, but haven't had any confirmation - I hope the email arrived OK

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Sorry I have been unavailable. My computer got sick, major trojan infection, it's currently at the hospital (Frys service) getting fixed. Apparently there have been alot of computers attacked and they are pretty busy. It's been a week and a half so far, and who knows how much longer. there is a chance that they may not be able to remove the infections, and will have to reload everything from BIOS up. So it'll take a week or so once I get it back to reload all my software.
:f:f:ww

I was tryong to save money by not having one of those expensive malware programs and not having full backup. Well, it will not be a financial savings. Please, Please, let me be a lesson, a simple virus checker is NOT enough, also get a good malware checker. AND keep a good back up
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So, I did see alot of emails from ya'll in the email box, but I won't be able to get to them until I get mu computer back. So, essentially, the deadline has been postponed about 2 weeks.

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Malwarebytes is free. When you get your machine back GET it and install it. It protects me HUGE time. My techy recommends it above all the paid ones.

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Where's the best place to download it, gregory? There seems to be a basic version from the Malwarebytes company itself, and many free full versions from other websites, but which (if any) of those can be trusted? Better perhaps to download the free basic one from the proper site?

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That's where I get mine - or from cnet... - a safe download site I use a lot. There is LOADS of good stuff there.

It doesn't get excited about ordinary cookies, which I wish it did - but my AVG now picks those up !

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Thanks - off to do it now!

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sorry for the delay.....computer at home crashed and is 3wheeks later still in the shop grrrrr

So i decided to to my last card 'low-tech' collage using Windows paint...the result is not super, but not that bad also

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Hi folks... seems we've all been having some computer glitches then :sd
 - mine was with my laptop motherboard; got it fixed once, then it failed again and I got it replaced, but then that one died as well!  GRRR!
BUT luckily I didn't loose anything :ok and now I run the old hard drive from a nifty wee USB enclosure.

Anyway, here's my card, just in time for the original deadline, but glad I've got extra time to write something about it. No time to rework the drawing though, so I hope y'all find it acceptable...



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Sumada, L like your card, alot!  Everything perfect from his smile to the monkey. 

I just discovered something enteresting, you know there is only one letter difference between monkey and money?

Internet access will be spotty.  My computer is going back to the service dept for restore and reload.  I keep getting 'black screen of death'.  (New Windows 7 upgrade to 'blue screen of death' from previous versions. HA )   So if you send me a card and don't hear that I've gor it, don't worry.

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Sumada wrote:

  No time to rework the drawing though, so I hope y'all find it acceptable...




It doesn't need rework. The monkey and everything else is perfect...

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Here is my 'primitively done' Sun card...

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Good work, everyone - we're getting there!

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And you did that with a machine that isn't working right ?

Like, WOW !

Great stuff everyone.

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well I did it at work on the computer there where only Paint is installed....with collage of different images

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If it wouldn't be an invasion of her privacy I would show you granddaughter's results with paint from the other day... I am well impressed with that card !

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My final version of the Tower is ready. I got 2 votes for number 1 and 2 votes for number 4 of my initial tinkering. So I decided for myself. And I kinda liked number 4 too, so I went with that one.

Anyway, here is my Tower and the description:

The glass through which we look at the world is shattered to pieces. The World is broken. Everything you thought you knew, how you lived, what you believed is shaken to the very core. Nothing will be like it was before.
Picture was made by Photoshop.

For the bio, please use the one from previous years, Skad1. :hp

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Good one :kt

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Thanks :hp

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Very nice, truelighth. :ro

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since my computer crash i've lost the email to where send my write-ups and big size image...can anyone pm it to me?

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I sent you a copy, Mr. la-luna, but not before I sent one to Sumada by mistake...:?

:cs Sumada...

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Finally, an update.

Six cards missing, if you have sent the card, please resend as I must have lost them during my computer troubles.  I am going to have to rebuild my laptop, so I will here  and gone alot.

03. The Empress,  Marcia959
09. The Hermit,  Morwenna
13. Death,  Palestrina
18. The Moon,  Ambriel
Check list for missing descriptions and bios.


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Here's my High Priestess.

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She's wondrous, Sumada!

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Amen to that !

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goldenweb wrote: She's wondrous, Sumada!
You are too kind... 

 ...BUT when you say "She" I am very sure you are actually referring to Papoon's High Priestess!!!! which I think is utterly stunning btw. :D
In fact I very much admire all your cards Papoon, but this one in particular. :ro

Hearty congrats to all participants though; this is going to be a powerful Trump deck!


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I'm clearly not at all with it... :kt

Sorry Papoon - She's wondrous! :ro

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Yes, Papoon, very nice work.
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Moving along!

 

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A much-belated thanks to everyone who had kind words for the High Priestess. (This one clearly had a mind of its own, as the final card had absolutely no relationship to the card I initially sat down to make.)

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The Death

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We don't have a terrified smiley.... :sd

But that's awesome !

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gregory wrote: We don't have a terrified smiley.... :sd

But that's awesome !


Gregory, this one could qualify as a terrified smiley...:ee

And that card is awesome.. and scary indeed!

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WOW...!

Is the horse's body part of the original picture? It's somehow alien and terrifying...

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I forgot ... the number of photographs used for this card.

The only thing new in this picture is that it is made on a computer (and of course it is not new).

This picture seams me very old  as if I had seen this type of images at least 359 times or 459 or 559...

It is too realistic, and this is what I hate in photoshop... this time I made too simple, I'm sorry.


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No need to be sorry - it's wondrous!

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OK, here is the Empress! Hi-res Emp sent.

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Did you paint that, Marcia?  How did you make it?

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I did not paint it but there was Photoshop "magic" involved. I started with part of an antique advertisement from the 1880's.

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All I have left is the Hermit from Morwenna, high res version from Palestrina,  and descriptions from Marcia 959, palestrina and me.

And by the way, that is a wonderous Death!

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Status is the same as above. 

Has anyone heard anything from Morwenna?  She is the only one I haven't heard anything from. 

:hp

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first 8 cards, lousy resolution, but it'll give ya an idea.

Isn't that title card a thing of beauty!!!!   :ok

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skad1 wrote: Status is the same as above. 

Has anyone heard anything from Morwenna?  She is the only one I haven't heard anything from. 

:hp

I PMd her on AT last night....

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I'm not sure what to do.  Morenna finally answered an email on the 5th and said she had been traveling, and the card was done and she's send it me that weekend, which would have been October 6th.  Here it is October 19 th and I haven't heard anything more from her.  No emails, no cards, nothing.

She said she did the card but how long should I wait?  I hate to blow off her workm and I'd like to have her as part of this deck....but.   And if I do give up, anyone want to do a Hermit card?

:f:qq
 

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skad1 wrote:   And if I do give up, anyone want to do a Hermit card?

:f:qq
 


I've experimented with a hermit some time ago, if you want it you can have it:








And the description:

The Hermit is a card of introspection. Taking time for thinking and doing some research to gain enlightenment. And when he finished reading the Splendor Solis, the Hermit-Dog will bury the philosophers bone somewhere in the garden…

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Eno wrote: I've experimented with a hermit some time ago, if you want it you can have it
I like your card :cool:! And it's good to know that we have a fallback if needed.

However I think we should give it another week or two to get in touch with Morvenna. It would be sad to leave her out.

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Morwenna usually has beautiful cards. I would also give her a bit more time. Did you send her a message on facebook too?

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I'd give her time too... When I get home I will harass her....

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truelighth wrote: Morwenna usually has beautiful cards. I would also give her a bit more time. Did you send her a message on facebook too?
I don't "do" facebook.  Don't know why, just don't trust it.  If you do, could you message her?

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Sure. I thought since you have a facebook account, you send her a message on there. But I will send her a message. No problem :kt

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skad has a facebook account ??? :cl - like - wow....

I emailed morwenna in case I have a different email for her....

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gregory wrote: skad has a facebook account ??? :cl - like - wow....

I emailed morwenna in case I have a different email for her....


I have one, a teacher said that's how he communicated with his students,  then he never did.  I went allitle crazy for abit, but now avoid it.  All the privacy issues make me wonder.  Everyonce and awhile I go check for new pictures from my nephew and his kid, but that't it.

You know they track where you go on the internet even when you are not on facebook?  You are a source of revenue for them, period.  Don't forget that.

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Oh I know. That's why I have never and will never have an account. That and I think it's all rather SILLY except for people like my SO, a poet who needs it to kind of advertise his readings etc.... It's kind of "I'm here so I'm FAMOUS" stuff.

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Aha.

PS.

I just saw that 6 days ago Morwenna was in Florida. Sooooo I expect she will be back soon ! (I could email the guy she was visiting - I know him too - and ask ?)

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Update - Morwenna was in Florida - she should have got home yesterday. So... I did email her...

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Update to update - when she got back her router broke. I have now emailed her again, as I gather it is fixed.

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Then her email picked and chose who to take emails from.  Apparently all of us are no-no-s

Anyway, her card is awesome, glad I waited.  The set is now getting a quote at the printers.

finally

:ro

eno, save your hermit for next years deck! ok?

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skad1 wrote: Then her email picked and chose who to take emails from.  Apparently all of us are no-no-s

Anyway, her card is awesome, glad I waited.  The set is now getting a quote at the printers.

Hey - more likely she dealt with the newest first - I'm afraid that's what I tend to do. Also I had mentioned it to a friend of hers when I was worried about her - that may have helped !

But I'm glad you waited too. Wouldn't be the same without her !

ETA  Actually - I am clearing out stuff on AT - I see she hasn't read the PM I sent her. Maybe she just knew she had to send it, didn't make it before she left, and sent it as soon as her router was fixed - and didn't read my email either...!!!

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Ok, I got a chance for a surprise, so the deck is being delayied acouple more days.  Expect email with costs, etc later this week.  Prices have gone up, so we're not going to get the fancy lwb, but a sheet of paper with all the info on.

:cool:

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Ok, I am curious now. And looking forward to our deck. The LWB as a sheet of paper, that is fine with me. I am already glad we managed to get this deck done again too. I do love our collaborative decks. :ok

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Looking forward to it and the Fool deck too.

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Hello, loves! How are things? :bl

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Ok, printers proofs viewed, cards edited for clarity, and final printing go ahead sent!

:ce:ce:ce

A Private email is going out tonight to everyone who participated.  If you don't get one, let me know.

Please let me know if you don't want a deck.  I can let someone else have it.

Payment info in email.  Let me know if you have any questions.

 

PS-It looks great!  And the surprise is who did our Happy Squirrel card!

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Wonderful, Skad1! :ok I am glad it did work out. And I can't wait to hold my own copy!
:ce

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Paying now :)

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All paid up :)

Thanks skad, for all your work. :ok






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Paid for mine!

Looking forward to it, thanks bunches skad!

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IT FINALLY HAPPENED!!!:ce:ce:ce

Decks shipped today, except for Pens (Pen, see email for reason) and Markosias, who I never heard back from. 

Thank you for all your patience, I know this is a long time since some of you finished your cards.

 

When you get the deck, there will be an 'extra' type card that has two minis of the title card.  My original intention was to cut these to size, and either use it as a hang tag on a bag, or glue it to the front of the bag.  But then I decided to let each of you decide what they wanted to do with it.  If nothing else it'd make a good bookmark!

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Like, TO-tally cool. :ro

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Whizzies !

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Yippie!:ce:ce:ce

Looking forward to receiving my copy. Thanks Skad1!

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:ok
Hey that's great to hear - thanks skad

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Ooo... Got mine today. Thanks skad!

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Got mine today - very nice job, everyone and very well produced, skad !

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Today the cards arrived in Germany, everything is fine.

Greetings
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Eno wrote: Today the cards arrived in Germany, everything is fine.

Greetings
Eno

So they did :ok

It's a cool deck! Thanks Skad for the effort you put into it.

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Are we ready to do another?

:f:z  :ee

:ceObviously crazy, that I am.

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skad1 wrote:
Are we ready to do another?

Ok sure :-)

I'll take the aces please.

Hoping my 2012 deck will arrive soon . . .

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I can't wait to do another one either :D

May i have the moon?

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Wan't we 2013 do a full deck or a majors only again?

Can I have the Tower ?

(and in case of a full deck, i would like to do one of the queens)

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Oh OK already; Lovers. (Has evil plan...)

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Ok, I'm in. Not sure about which card yet... but I am in :hp

 

I would like it if we could try for a full deck. See if maybe we can get enough people this year.

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I think not if it is just a couple of dozen of us trying though....

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gregory wrote:
I think not if it is just a couple of dozen of us trying though....
If we try a full deck with not so many people, I could do the Tower and all four Queens...

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I suppose that would be one way. One major and one - complete block of minors ?

ETA I just don't feel like a random load of minors. I could take the 5s, if we go that route....?

Decide fast; I picked them because I feel decidedly low and they sort of FIT just now :cl

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If we should take that route (which I think is a good idea), I could do the 3's, unless anybody else wants them...

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I did those once. They are fun !!

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I'm in again. Could I have the magician? I'll do more if we decide to do a full deck.

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May I have the Sun and the 4 Pages?

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Have we decided on a major and a "number" set then ? It would work - and there would be 8 majors on their own for people who - couldn't face it.... Not that we got enough to do one each last time !!!!

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Well,

I guess we are doing a 2013 deck.

I was just checking for interest!  Wow

Now I need to start the Excel spread sheet and all that.  No rest for the wicked!!!

Did you notice the surprise?  Bluetoy snuck in at the end.  :ce:ce He's been in every deck so it good to see him in this one.

What did you think of the LWB?  Full page ok compared to little lwb?  When you think of the answer to that, add to the calculation that the full sheet cost under 7.00 USD, where the little one would have cost 37.00 USD.  I thought that made the full sheet look really awesome!

The last decks went out today.  Sorry it took me so long, Pen, but it's done now.  Please let me know when you get them. 

We only had one participant that didn't want a deck, and that didn't stick around very long. 

And finally, I will start a new thread for the 2013 deck.  One major and 4 minors? ?All minors to be the same type (eg all 4 of the 3;s or all the kings, etc. )  If you want less, that is ok too, but it;ll be first come, first serve. 

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YES like the sheet. WAY easier and lots of decks have such a thing :)

I think that works like what you said. Like. Grammar fail. Who cares :cl

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CARDS ARRIVED TODAY HOORAH!

Splendid I reckon. I am very proud to be part of this great group of fellow enthusiasts.

Thank you one and all, and especially skad for all your hard work and magic to bring another TCF deck together.

So many great cards - we all did good eh? :ok

Loved the title card in the hands of the squirrel...

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Mine arrived today too - hooray!

Thanks everyone for all the great cards, and skad for all the hard work.


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